YouTube video · UAP Gerb · 20 July 2024
7/20/24 Discussing Cases and Q&A
A solo chat stream the night before Gerb left for Japan, mostly about method and plans (Ryan Wood and MJ-12, Kecksburg, the IPU, Kalahari 1989, Project Aquarius). Little new evidence but several leads: Gerb says he found Herrera's insider independently, Bill Moore claimed a second source for the Kalahari crash, Wood's catalogue cites a 1954 Army CIC document on an Iceland case, and a 24th STS account and a Pine Gap tip came in.
On the record
- Wood's citation of the 468th CIC Detachment document, 11 October 1954, is a checkable record lead.
Open questions
- Whether the 468th CIC document exists and what the Iceland event was.
- Who Moore's second Kalahari source was.
Leads to follow
- leads.md: Kalahari 1989 with Moore's second source (Cameron files).
- leads.md: the 24th STS Reddit account.
- Check Wood's Majic Eyes Only entry and NARA CIC holdings for the Iceland document.
Timeline
On the recordWitness testimonyAlleged / one person's word
Aug 1954
An Iceland case in Wood's cataloguePrimary source cited: a 468th CIC Detachment document, 'Unidentified Flying Objects', 11 Oct 1954.Ryan S. Wood
1989
Kalahari crashBill Moore claimed a second source beyond the disputed South African Air Force source.
c. 1998
Moore's emails to Grant CameronIn Cameron's released files.
early 1990s
A huge triangle over New YorkSeen by a Jiu-Jitsu acquaintance and his father while biking.
The claims, checked
Witness testimony (1)
Gerb came across Herrera's insider 'completely independently in my own research on another project'; the insider is not anyone Gerb has covered.Supports the corroboration Joey reported in June 2024.firsthandSumatra, 2009: Michael Herrera's octagonal craftMichael Herrera
Alleged / one person's word (12)
Gerb has a pending call with someone who 'may have some interesting information on Indonesia back in 2009'.anonymousunnamed contact → UAP Gerb → told itSumatra, 2009: Michael Herrera's octagonal craft
In emails with Grant Cameron around 1998, now among Cameron's released files, Bill Moore said he had a secondary source for the 1989 Kalahari crash beyond the disputed South African Air Force source.Gerb wants to reach Moore.anonymousBill Moore (emails in Grant Cameron's released files)unnamed second source → Bill Moore → told it
The symbols in the alleged Kalahari documents parallel the symbol from Lonnie Zamora's Socorro sighting.Gerb's comparison.speculationSocorro, New Mexico: Lonnie Zamora's landing report
Ryan Wood's Majic Eyes Only lists an August 1954 Iceland case whose primary source is a 468th CIC Detachment document titled 'Unidentified Flying Objects', dated 11 October 1954.As read on air by Gerb; the document is to be checked.analysiscase/iceland-1954-cicRyan S. Wood
A self-described 24th STS whistleblower says his captain was sometimes pulled away for special duties and once came back shaken after seeing a craft 'that wasn't ours'.Gerb has the post saved.anonymousanonymous Reddit posterunnamed captain → anonymous 24th STS poster → told it
Greer's DPI archive has two witnesses on a facility at Pine Gap; a contact familiar with FAA and transponder data told Gerb that the rumoured Korean site may not be 'it'.anonymousunnamed FAA-savvy contact → UAP Gerb → told itPine Gap, AustraliaSteven Greer
A Jiu-Jitsu acquaintance saw a huge triangle fly over him and his father while biking in New York in the early 1990s.Firsthand to Gerb from a person he does not name.anonymousunnamed acquaintance → UAP Gerb → told it
A chat commenter said Salvatore Pais 'may have worked' with him in the power and propulsion division at NAWC Patuxent River.Unverified chat claim; lead only.anonymousanonymous chat commenteranonymous chat commenter → UAP Gerb → told itNaval Air Station Patuxent River (Pax River)
Fewer than about 500 people have ever served on crash-retrieval teams.Gerb's estimate.speculation
Greer's 2001 Disclosure briefing document is 'brilliant', but Greer over-dramatised Herrera's gunpoint account.analysisSteven GreerSumatra, 2009: Michael Herrera's octagonal craft
Many elements within the programs will stop at nothing to prevent disclosure, given how many firsthand witnesses say the same thing.Answer to a viewer's question on good-versus-bad-guys disinformation.speculation
Black-program money can be studied contract by contract: employees say some large contracts show no movement within them, and Catherine Austin Fitts has described billions missing in failed Pentagon audits.Gerb's method, as he describes it.analysis