YouTube video · UAP Gerb · 21 October 2024
Alien Reproduction Vehicle - the Testimony of Mark McCandlish
A deep dive on the 'Fluxliner' alien reproduction vehicle that Brad Sorensen described to Mark McCandlish after a closed Norton AFB show in 1988. Gerb found Bill Scott's Aviation Week interview notes with Sorensen, dated 3 December 1990, which carry the account in Sorensen's own words. He adds other ARV witnesses at Edwards and Norton, a 1984 triangle Polaroid and a 1989 recovery in East Germany, and the threats Sorensen sent him. He sets out the circumstances of McCandlish's death beside the official ruling and draws no conclusion.
On the record
- Bill Scott's interview notes with Sorensen, 3 December 1990.
- The official ruling on McCandlish's death, 13 April 2021.
Open questions
- Who Sorensen's client at the show was.
- Whether the Cedarville Polaroid survives.
Leads to follow
- Cedarville, California, spring 1984 Polaroid: lead only, no case.
- East Germany, May 1989 Lockheed craft recovery: lead only, no case.
- If the 1988 Norton show is ever re-proposed as a case it goes to the plausibility thread first; the earlier retired ARV case stays retired.
Timeline
On the recordWitness testimonyAlleged / one person's word
People across the timeline · click a name or a dot
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1960s
A domed disc in an Edwards hangarStringfield Class A witness.
1973
Sellin wanders into the ARV at Edwards North Base
Spring 1984
Cedarville PolaroidWingtips that fold into a triangle.
May 1989
East Germany: a Lockheed craft recovered
The claims, checked
On the record (3)
Bill Scott of Aviation Week interviewed Sorensen on 3 December 1990; the notes corroborate the Norton account in Sorensen's own words, including the three 'bear' discs, the Aurora and Senator Cranston.This replaces the earlier 'to verify' AW&ST claim.firsthandBill Scott's interview notes (found by UAP Gerb)Bill Scott's interview notes with Brad Sorensen (3 December 1990)Brad Sorensen
McCandlish died on 13 April 2021, aged 69, of a gunshot ruled self-inflicted; that day he had told Rick Price he would call later and his girlfriend that he would see her at work.The ruling and the circumstances are recorded side by side; neither cancels the other.firsthandofficial ruling; Rick Price and his girlfriend (cited by Gerb)Mark McCandlish
Amy Eskridge's 2022 death was ruled self-inflicted and is contested.firsthandofficial ruling (cited by Gerb)Amy Catherine Eskridge
Witness testimony (9)
At a closed Norton AFB show on 12 November 1988, reached by a 727 flight to Plant 42, he saw the losing B-2 prototype, an unmanned 'Aurora' of 100-110 ft and three worn, lead-painted discs of 20, 60 and 120 ft hovering silently, said to have 'been everywhere in the solar system'.Senator Cranston and George Brown Jr. were there.secondhandBrad Sorensen → Mark McCandlish → told itBrad SorensenAir Force Plant 42 (Palmdale)
Sorensen wrote to Gerb that 'Mark McCandlish was a stupid dramatic selfish fool who died because he could not keep his mouth shut, learn from this' and 'I protected him until I could not'; Gerb was also told to 'say goodbye to everybody I love'.Gerb reads this as warning amateurs off, not as proof of a crime.firsthandBrad SorensenMark McCandlish
Tom Keaton of Lockheed confirmed the Aurora and a second model with a canopy cockpit, two tails, and fuselage engines plus external pulse-detonation engines (10,000-15,000 mph).secondhandTom Keaton → Mark McCandlish → told itLockheed Martin Skunk Works
Kent Sellin, a crew chief on experimental aircraft at Edwards North Base in 1973, wandered into the ARV while fetching a ground power unit, and gave configuration details Sorensen did not know.Met McCandlish at the 1992 Edwards air show.secondhandKent Sellin → Mark McCandlish → told it
Lt Col John Williams, an electrical engineer for construction at Norton in 1981-82, described a facility so secret the wing commander could not enter, rumoured to hold a UFO.Rumour level.firsthandLt Col John Williams (Disclosure Project, 2000)
McCandlish was warned off and lost his defence clients one by one.firsthandMark McCandlish
James Allen, director of 'Zero Point', died about two and a half months after falling ill, a month before release; a pathology panel McCandlish showed flagged high uranium, thorium, beryllium and cadmium.'Poisoned using radioisotopes' is McCandlish's view.secondhandpathology panel → Mark McCandlish → told it
He was due to brief Senate staff in June 2021 and had been in contact with Senator Rubio.secondhandRobert D. MorningstarMark McCandlish → Robert D. Morningstar → told itMark McCandlishMarco Rubio
Michael Shellenberger's October 2024 article on Immaculate Constellation uses the term 'ARV', tying the Norton account to that list.analysisImmaculate Constellation
Alleged / one person's word (6)
The discs were copied from hardware recovered in 1947.Sorensen's words in the Scott notes: they copied the technology and could not figure out how it worked.secondhandBrad Sorensen → Mark McCandlish → told itBrad SorensenBill Scott's interview notes with Brad Sorensen (3 December 1990)
Sorensen's client at the show was probably Frank Carlucci.speculationBrad Sorensen
A pilot crossing Edwards in a USAF security vehicle in the 1960s saw a large disc with a clear dome in an open hangar and was told to leave.anonymousLeonard Stringfield (files published by Michael Schratt)unnamed pilot → Leonard Stringfield → Michael Schratt → told it
In the early 1950s a Bell Labs source saw a retrieved or test craft brought onto a California base, plus a cutaway.anonymousMr Hinesunnamed Bell Labs source → Mr Hines → told it
A Polaroid taken north of Cedarville, California, in spring 1984 shows a 'string of vehicles' whose wingtips seem to fold in to form a triangle; McCandlish drew it from the photographer's sketch.anonymousunnamed photographer → Mark McCandlish → told it
In May 1989 Special Forces recovered a crashed Lockheed advanced vehicle in East Germany, F-117-like, with three white superconducting-ceramic spheres underneath; the team was told not to touch the sparking loose sphere bare-handed.secondhandthe pilot → Mark McCandlish → told itLockheed Martin Skunk Works