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The undersea program
Narrative · by UAP Gerb

The undersea program

For seventy years sailors and pilots have watched objects go into the sea and come out again. The Navy built the means to watch and recover under water: MITRE's Navy programs, Project Sand Dollar, and from 1969 the undersea reconnaissance office NURO. Gerb's strongest claim is that MITRE has monitored a city-block-scale site in a deep trench off the Bahamas since about 1970, a "tic-tac factory", and Grusch now describes an underwater facility of several city blocks that manufactures devices.

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The voices it opens with

Before UAP Gerb says a word, the video lets others speak. Each clip is linked at its second in the video.

Crash-retrieval extended Q&A, Aug 2026
MITRE does in fact monitor a very large, what's described as a tic-tac factory under the waters of the Bahamas. In my own personal assessment, this program likely dates back to around the early 1970s.
UAP Gerb’s reasoning
Grusch on JRE live Q&A, Oct 2026
The region around the Bahamas, maybe in the deep abyssal trench reaching about 4,200 meters in depth.
UAP Gerb’s reasoning
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The claim, in UAP Gerb’s words

“Something has a fixed base under the sea, and a small Navy and MITRE circle has watched it since about 1970, out of sight even of senior admirals.”

Gerb's reading, across 20 of our records

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How it split

The central claim drawn as a tree. Each branch is a part of the story that went its own way, splitting at UAP Gerb’s turning points. Line weight is UAP Gerb’s sense of how much each branch holds. Click a branch, a fork or a dot.

On the recordNamed witnessUnnamed insidersUAP Gerb’s reasoningFork: what split it
SURFACEBELOWOUT LOUD1950195519601965197019751980198519901995200020052010201520202025WHERE IT IS NOWSeen at seaStill reportedThe Navy's programsOut of sight even of admiralsThe site belowActive1958 · The Navy starts watching1958 · The Navy starts watching1970 · A site is found1970 · A site is found1949 · Catalina: objects in and out of the sea1964 · A 4,400 mph contact near Puerto Rico1967 · Shag Harbour: lights into the sea2004 · The Tic Tac and the thing under the water2013 · Aguadilla: into the sea and out2019 · Lights over the Pacific fleet2022 · Spheres in and out of the water near a submarine2025 · About 100 objects off Virginia1965 · Deep Submergence: Project Sand Dollar1969 · NURO foundedNURO founded1991 · A triangle raised from the North Atlantic2013 · Off-World Technologies under NSWC Crane2020 · A nuclear submarine used as bait2024 · Woods Hole named2024 · An admiral never briefed2017 · A "base of operations" at sea2026 · A mothership near Bermuda launching Tic Tacs2026 · Grusch: a city-block facility under waterGrusch: a city-block faci…
1949–now

Seen at sea

This branch rests on: on the record
What sailors and pilots report going in and out of the water.
What it held. Navy ships, pilots, sensors
Where it is now. Still reported
Events on this branch
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How it unfolds: three eras

1949–1968

Seen from the surface

Reports from ships and coasts; the Navy builds deep-recovery capability.
5 events · 3 record · 1 named · 1 unnamed · 0 reasoning
1969–2016

Watched from below

NURO and MITRE listen on the sea floor and find the site.
6 events · 2 record · 2 named · 2 unnamed · 0 reasoning
2017–now

Said out loud

DeLonge, Stratton, Grusch and Gerb describe the base in public.
9 events · 3 record · 4 named · 2 unnamed · 0 reasoning
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What carries it

Every event in the narrative, sorted by what it rests on. The on-record events are the skeleton; the rest is what UAP Gerb hangs on it.

8On the recordLaws, orders, founding dates, released files
7Named witnessesPeople on record, firsthand or secondhand
5Unnamed insidersUAP Gerb’s own sources, anonymous to the public
0UAP Gerb’s reasoningThe links and readings UAP Gerb adds
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Open threads

  • AUTEC, the Navy's undersea test range in the Bahamas, sits in the same waters; we have no record for it yet.
  • What did the "Off-World Technologies" division at Crane study, and what do Crane and Dahlgren buy from Woods Hole?
  • Why was Gallaudet, Oceanographer of the Navy, never briefed?
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