YouTube video · UAP Gerb · 2024 (before the Nov 2024 hearing)
UAP Reverse Engineering at Edwards Air Force Base [Redacted List Vol.2]
Gerb introduces witness "Ed", an Air Force officer in Steven Greer's Disclosure Project Intelligence archive who says he headed an electronic warfare group at Edwards AFB that tested reverse-engineered craft, and who later became the source for Gerb's Hidden Wing project. At this stage everything about Ed comes through Greer's published call notes, briefing and internal email, so it is secondhand. Gerb surrounds Ed's account with Edwards history: Gordon Cooper's 1957 landing film, the 1971 Clayton sighting, Air Force propulsion studies, and Stringfield's anonymous Edwards sources. His own links between Ed's unit, the 412th Test Wing and the Nevada ranges are his reasoning.
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1957
Saucer filmed on the Edwards lake bedGordon Cooper said a camera crew filmed a landed saucer with three legs and the film was sent to Washington.
1971
Acorn-shaped craft near EdwardsDebbie Clayton saw an acorn-shaped craft 15 miles from Edwards; the Air Force arrived within 14 minutes (Stringfield).
1972
Project Outgrowth propulsion studyAir Force Rocket Propulsion Laboratory at Edwards discussed advanced propulsion concepts including anti-gravity.
1980
Project Red Light letter"MH", via a 1980 D.L. Dobbs letter, said a recovered UFO was shipped from Edwards to Area 51 for test flights.
1988
Electric propulsion study for EdwardsSAIC and Biefeld-Brown work for the Air Force Astronautics Laboratory at Edwards, released 1990.SAIC
1990
Aviation Week black-aircraft sightingsAbout 45 sightings of hover-to-supersonic craft over Edwards, George and China Lake, one triangular.
2006-2010
Ed at EdwardsEd says he ran an EW group testing reverse-engineered craft and was read into several advanced aircraft programs.
2008-2010
Air Force "go public" planEd says he was part of a 2008 plan to go public that a two-star general killed in 2009-10.
Jan 2023
SPACECOM meeting on UAP recoveryA meeting arranged by Kirkpatrick titled "UAP response and recovery and material transfer" (FOIA release).
Nov 2023
Greer call notes with EdGreer's notes of a 25 Nov 2023 call record Ed's career and claims, later published in the DPI archive.
Mar 2024
DPI briefing module 3Greer's presentation includes a lieutenant colonel at Edwards who trained pilots of man-made UFOs.
The claims, checked
On the record (3)
Lockheed reconfigured an NGA two-phase security system for the Nellis Combined Air Operations Center.Lockheed case study; Gerb's suggestion that it serves UAP work is his own reasoning.analysisLockheedLockheed Martin Skunk Works
A January 2023 meeting set up by Kirkpatrick with SPACECOM and the Joint Staff was titled "UAP response and recovery and material transfer".FOIA release posted online; the db holds the document record.analysisUS Space Command FOIAKirkpatrick's SPACECOM meeting on 'UAP response and recovery' (January 2023)Sean Kirkpatrick
Aviation Week reported about 45 sightings in 1990 of craft that hovered then went supersonic over Edwards, George and China Lake.Trade press report; Gerb's author attribution needs checking.analysisAviation Week
Witness testimony (4)
More than 130 non-human craft have been downed and retrieved with Lockheed Skunk Works and Boeing, using electrogravitic technology and EMP weapons.Greer's March 2024 briefing; his insider sources are unnamed and no supporting record is given.secondhandperson/steven-greer → unnamed insiders → told itLockheed Martin Skunk Works
Gordon Cooper said a crew at Edwards filmed a landed saucer in 1957 and the film went to Washington.Cooper's own account of handling the film; the crew's sighting reaches us through Cooper.firsthandGordon Cooper
Debbie Clayton saw an acorn-shaped craft 15 miles from Edwards in 1971 and the Air Force arrived within 14 minutes.Named witness in Stringfield's Status Report VI.firsthandDebbie Claytoncase/edwards-1971
Edgar Fouche said graduates of the 412th Test Pilot School fly the TR-3B.Fouche's 1998 account; his TR-3B details come from his own insider contacts and are disputed.secondhandperson/edgar-fouche → his insider contacts → told it
Alleged / one person's word (11)
Ed is a career Air Force officer (1999-2015) who served at Nellis, Hanscom, Edwards and the Pentagon and headed an electronic warfare group testing reverse-engineered technology.Comes from Greer's witness list, call notes and internal email; Gerb says public records confirm the postings but withholds the name.anonymousEd (anonymous)Ed → person/steven-greer → person/uap-gerb → told it
At Edwards Ed was the go-between for engineers and test pilots "when they had a man craft they were testing".Internal DPI email published by Greer; no document from the Air Force side.anonymousEd (anonymous)Ed → person/steven-greer → person/uap-gerb → told it
Ed was briefed at Area 51/S4 by a major with a 30-minute video of essentially invisible inspection craft and told they had captured lots of aircraft.Greer's 25 Nov 2023 call notes; single anonymous source.anonymousEd (anonymous)Ed → person/steven-greer → person/uap-gerb → told itArea 51 and S-4
In 2008 the Air Force had a plan to go public, which a two-star general killed in 2009-10.Greer's call notes; Gerb's list of possible two-star generals is CV matching only and is not recorded.anonymousEd (anonymous)Ed → person/steven-greer → person/uap-gerb → told it
While at the Pentagon Ed saw $34 billion, then $40 billion, routed to non-Air Force authorization (non-blue TOA).Greer's call notes; non-blue TOA is a real budget category, but the link to UAP programs is Ed's.anonymousEd (anonymous)Ed → person/steven-greer → person/uap-gerb → told it
Ed guesses Wright-Patterson's Hangar 6 may hold biologics.Marked in the call notes as Ed's own guess.anonymousEd (anonymous)Ed → person/steven-greer → person/uap-gerb → told itWright-Patterson AFB & 'Hangar 18'
Ed would testify to AARO only if Sean Kirkpatrick were removed, calling him an insider meant to squash information.Internal DPI email; reflects Ed's view of Kirkpatrick.anonymousEd (anonymous)Ed → person/steven-greer → person/uap-gerb → told itAAROSean Kirkpatrick
Ed's group sat inside the 412th Test Wing and worked jointly with the Nevada range and S4 on alien reproduction vehicles.Gerb's reading of the DPI documents; no record names the unit.speculation
"Dr. Epigoni" described Project (Blue) Heaven at Edwards, with a landed saucer and beings who went inert, still active in 1990.Pseudonymous source in Stringfield's Status Report VI.anonymousDr. Epigoni (pseudonym)Dr. Epigoni → Leonard Stringfield → told it
A recovered UFO was shipped from Edwards to Area 51 for test flights under Project Red Light."MH" via a 1980 D.L. Dobbs letter found by Michael Schratt.anonymousMH (anonymous)MH → D.L. Dobbs → Michael Schratt → told itArea 51 and S-4
An alleged 1991 NRO document lists Royal Ops, Cosmic Ops, Majic Ops, Blackjack Team and other units tied to Nellis and Groom Lake.Origin unknown; Greer says he gave it to Adm. Wilson, who recognized one entity as contractor-run.anonymousperson/steven-greer → unknown author → told itNational Reconnaissance Office (NRO)
Doesn't hold as stated (1)
$21 trillion went missing from the DoD and HUD between 1998 and 2015, funding black programs.Catherine Austin Fitts's figure counts unsupported accounting adjustments, not missing cash, so it does not show money diverted.analysisCatherine Austin Fitts