YouTube video · UAP Gerb · 15 November 2024
Post UAP Hearing Live Stream: Time in DC, Immaculate Constellation, & More
Recorded in a Capitol Hill hotel the day after the 13 November 2024 House Oversight hearing and the UAP Disclosure Fund event. Gerb was in the room on a media pass; his co-researcher Kermit watched from overflow. Three strands: what they saw and heard in person (Corbell's provenance of the Immaculate Constellation report, Burlison and an intelligence-connected attendee on witness intimidation, Gallaudet on undersea retrievals, Kean on McCandlish), Gerb's Edwards witness Ed on $34B and $40B of Air Force money, and a read-through of the IC report's image cases and morphology list.
On the record
- The IC report is in the Congressional Record (11 pages).
- Hamilton's 1991 first printed use of 'ARV'.
Open questions
- Which whistleblower Corbell meant.
- Which fiscal years Ed's figures cover.
Leads to follow
- Ed as a subpoena target (Gerb's first choice).
- The 1978 NSA serial in the IC report and in Oke Shannon's notes.
- Pacific Architects and Engineers (later Lockheed) as a possible bidder for the AAWSAP material.
Timeline
On the recordWitness testimonyAlleged / one person's word
1978
An NSA serial on Soviet parapsychology and UAP effectsCited in the IC report; also in Oke Shannon's notes.
13 Nov 2024
The hearing; the IC report enters the recordAs Shellenberger's, with 11 of 12 pages.Immaculate Constellation
The claims, checked
On the record (2)
The term 'ARV' was first published by Bill Hamilton in 1991, as 'alien replicated vehicle', from Brad Sorensen and Bill Scott, so it predates Greer; 'ARV' was the name Sorensen was told at Norton.Hamilton's 1991 publication, as Gerb cites it.analysisBrad SorensenBill Scott's interview notes with Brad Sorensen (3 December 1990)
The Securities Exchange Act of 1934 lets the president and agency heads waive reporting for firms doing classified work under executive order, and DOD audits since 2017 leave trillions unreconciled.Kermit's financial frame for how program money can stay hidden.analysisKermit (Gerb's co-researcher)
Witness testimony (8)
Jeremy Corbell gave the 12-page Immaculate Constellation report to Rep. Mace before the hearing; it was entered into the record as Shellenberger's, with 11 pages; the 12th page is Corbell's cover letter, later posted by Jesse Michels.Gerb was in the room on a media pass; Corbell was 'furious'.firsthandImmaculate Constellation'Exposing the Truth' hearingJeremy CorbellNancy MaceJesse Michels
Before the hearing Corbell told Gerb that 'one of the whistleblowers [you] spoke to is correct', without saying which.firsthandJeremy Corbell
Witnesses were intimidated 'up to the time they were supposed to testify'.Told to Gerb by Rep. Burlison and, separately, by an intelligence-connected attendee at the UAPDF event.secondhandunnamed witnesses → Eric Burlison and an intelligence-connected attendee → UAP Gerb → told it'Exposing the Truth' hearing
Burlison expected other, firsthand witnesses at the hearing, and spoke of 'obvious blockages from places outside of Congress'.Interview with Gerb, to be released.firsthand'Exposing the Truth' hearing
When Sharp's NURO and Woods Hole article came out, Gallaudet told Gerb he knew nothing about undersea retrievals; at the hearing he said he had never signed an NDA.Gerb records this only as: he does not know about USO retrievals.firsthandWoods Hole Oceanographic Institution'Exposing the Truth' hearing
At the UAP Disclosure Fund event Senator Rounds opened, gave Elizondo a framed copy of the UAPDA and strongly favoured reintroducing it.Speeches by Burlison and Burchett; board Nolan, Nell and Elizondo; advisers Gallaudet, Mellon and McConnell.firsthandMike RoundsLuis ElizondoThe UAP Disclosure Act
McCandlish sent Leslie Kean a copy of Sorensen's Fluxliner drawing between 2000 and 2003; she did not recall it, and was 'gobsmacked' by Sorensen's death threats.Kean was then working with Greer and stopped contact around 2004.firsthandMark McCandlishBrad Sorensen
Brad Sorensen has threatened Gerb again, in all caps, and Gerb has found others he threatened; Gerb says he may need to be subpoenaed as a hostile witness.firsthandBrad Sorensen
Alleged / one person's word (10)
A staffer told Gerb the committee had heard of Trotti (Skunk Works) and his story.anonymousunnamed staffer → UAP Gerb → told itLockheed Martin Skunk Works
In two fiscal years Ed saw $34B and then $40B of 'non-transfer-authority' funds sent back-channel to Air Force legacy programs, while on the Pentagon R&D panel chain overseeing about $200B a year of Air Force funds.Ed served in Air Force reverse-engineering programs, then as an SME to F-35 contractors. Gerb's first choice to subpoena.anonymous'Ed' (Edwards witness) → UAP Gerb → told it
Some sites run on cash and analog computers to cut the audit trail.anonymous'Ed' (Edwards witness) → UAP Gerb → told it
Space-based OPIR caught a black-hot saucer 200-400 m around, with symmetric concavities on top, rising out of dense cloud, reversing, dropping back and accelerating away, 'evasive', as if aware of the collector.Read on air by Gerb and Kermit.anonymousImmaculate Constellation report (Congressional Record, 13 Nov 2024)unnamed report authors → Jeremy Corbell → Rep. Nancy Mace → told itImmaculate Constellation
Infrared footage over ships doing SIGINT and MASINT at night shows a large equilateral triangle with three bright corner points, slowly rotating to show a bar of sweeping lights, hovering 500-1,000 m up; analysts call it a foreign 'reproduction vehicle' whose operators must have known the coordinates.Gerb and Kermit read it as Chinese.anonymousImmaculate Constellation report (Congressional Record, 13 Nov 2024)unnamed report authors → Jeremy Corbell → Rep. Nancy Mace → told itImmaculate Constellation
OPIR and MASINT tracked a Tic Tac crossing the Atlantic near cloud level, with EM signatures, in SOUTHCOM; the vessel's position suggests foreknowledge.anonymousImmaculate Constellation report (Congressional Record, 13 Nov 2024)unnamed report authors → Jeremy Corbell → Rep. Nancy Mace → told itImmaculate ConstellationThe Nimitz 'Tic Tac'
In data from 1991 to 2022 spheres are the commonest shape, domed and flat saucers second, ovals and Tic Tacs appear only after about 2003, and triangles are rarest; there are also 'floating brain' or 'jellyfish' shapes, cube-in-sphere objects, shape-shifters, and orbs circling F-22s and escorting one out of its mission area.anonymousImmaculate Constellation report (Congressional Record, 13 Nov 2024)unnamed report authors → Jeremy Corbell → Rep. Nancy Mace → told itImmaculate Constellation
Section 5 of the IC report cites a 1978 NSA serial on Soviet parapsychology and UAP biological effects that also appears in Oke Shannon's late-1980s Los Alamos speaker notes on an undersea USO base.A cross-match as reported; both texts to be compared.analysisImmaculate Constellation
Kirkpatrick called the IC report bogus because it has no letterhead.Commentary only under the what-if rule; a missing letterhead does not contradict the content.analysisImmaculate ConstellationSean Kirkpatrick
Another Navy-connected person in California seems to have handled the same off-world technology a couple of decades before the Crane witness.anonymousunnamed Navy-connected person → UAP Gerb → told itThe 'Off-World Technologies Division' under NSWC Crane (2012-15)