Person
Bob Oechsler
Maryland researcher (UAP Gerb calls him a NASA mission specialist) whose 1989 recorded phone call with Adm. Bobby Ray Inman is one of the most cited official exchanges on recovered craft. Inman pointed him to the CIA's science and technology chief Evan Hineman and to retired Director of Naval Intelligence Sumner Shapiro. Shapiro, by Oechsler's account, described craft he had studied up close.

Claims (6)
In a recorded 1989 call, Adm. Bobby Ray Inman spoke of recovered vehicles ('10 years ago the answer would have been no... beginning to become more open') and named the CIA's Deputy Director for Science and Technology, Evan Hineman, as 'the best person to ask'.firsthandOn the recordOechsler's recording of the call (cited by UAP Gerb)
A follow-up call from a 'Tom King' in Inman's office warned him about secrecy laws.firsthandSourced, unconfirmedBob Oechsler
He met Evan Hineman at Langley on 10 Aug 1989; Hineman denied any knowledge.firsthandSourced, unconfirmedBob Oechsler
In 1989 retired DNI Sumner Shapiro told him factions in the US held extraterrestrial vehicles he had studied up close, and that teams took them apart in an exact sequence and shipped them to labs; a 1990 meeting ended when Oechsler showed an alien hologram.secondhandSourced, unconfirmedBob Oechsler
The Navy ran EMP experiments out of NAS Pensacola (EMPRESS / EMPRESS II) to bring down UFOs.secondhandLeadBob Oechsler
Retired Rear Adm. Sumner Shapiro told Oechsler that craft were taken apart and shipped to laboratories.Sumner ShapiroOff-World Technologies Division - UAP Technology Reverse EngineeringsecondhandSourced, unconfirmedBob Oechsler
What Bob Oechsler said (3 claims)
On the record 2Witness testimony 1
“Inman told Oechsler in 1989 that the US has the hardware and to ask Hineman.”On the record80 Years of UFO Crash Retrieval and Reverse Engineering: A Timeline
Oechsler's recorded call.
“In a recorded 1989 call Bobby Ray Inman told Bob Oechsler that recovered vehicles existed and that CIA's Evan Hineman was the best person to ask.”On the recordNational Reconnaissance Office - UFO Crash Retrievals, Surveillance, and Legacy Program Gatekeepers
Oechsler's recording; Hineman later denied knowledge.
“Retired Rear Adm. Sumner Shapiro told Oechsler that craft were taken apart and shipped to laboratories.”Witness testimonyOff-World Technologies Division - UAP Technology Reverse Engineering
Connected
Sources
- UAP Gerb: the National Reconnaissance Office
- UAP Gerb: US Navy crash retrieval and USO programs
- UAP Gerb: 80 Years, the legacy-program timeline
- UAP Gerb, 'Off-World Technologies Division - UAP Technology Reverse Engineering' (YouTube, 18 July 2024)
Mentioned on (5)
- UAP Gerb: 80 Years of UFO Crash Retrieval and Reverse Engineering: A Timeline
- UAP Gerb: Northrop Grumman & TRW - UFO Reverse Engineering, Material Exploitation, & Legacy Programs [Vol.2]
- UAP Gerb: National Reconnaissance Office - UFO Crash Retrievals, Surveillance, and Legacy Program Gatekeepers
- UAP Gerb: Off-World Technologies Division - UAP Technology Reverse Engineering
- UAP Gerb: US Navy UFO Crash Retrieval & Reverse Engineering Programs