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2023 · W-291 warning area, off Southern California

Four tic tacs off the USS Jackson

On the record
Strength B · 8/10 · 2 independent
Evidence 3/4 · Witnesses 3/3 · Backing 2/3

A named Navy radar senior chief saw it firsthand and the ship's thermal video is out, though the Navy hasn't confirmed the release.

Plausibility High
Score 12 · 7 factors for, 0 against

A named Navy radar senior chief saw it firsthand and the ship's thermal video is out; flight records show no explaining aircraft.

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Unresolved
Frame at 0:02 of: USS Jackson SAFIRE thermal video, 15 Feb 2023 (excerpt, as broadcast) · U.S. Navy personnel, released by Jeremy Corbell (Weaponized); excerpt from KLAS 8 News Now
  • What: four tic-tac-shaped objects on a Navy warship's thermal sensor in 2023, in the same waters as the 2004 Nimitz Tic Tac.
  • Who saw it: Senior Chief Alexandro Wiggins, 23 years in the Navy, who also served on the USS Omaha during the 2019 swarm.
  • The record: the ship's SAFIRE thermal video with combat-center audio, released by Jeremy Corbell; not yet confirmed by the Navy.
  • Checked: a former Defense Department analyst found no aircraft or helicopters in flight records that could explain them.
When15 February 2023
WhereW-291 warning area, off Southern California
Backing2 independent
Evidencesensor data, documents

About 19:15 on 15 February 2023, in the same waters as the 2004 Nimitz encounter, operators in the combat information center of the USS Jackson saw unknown objects on their screens. Senior Chief Alexandro Wiggins, the ship's radar and air-traffic specialist, went out on deck and saw a light on the horizon that seemed to be surfacing out of the water. Back inside, the SAFIRE thermal sensor showed a tic-tac-shaped object with no exhaust, then a second, and on zooming out, four. All four left to the northeast at the same moment, almost instantly. The ship filed no formal report because the objects did not close on it or show hostile intent. The thermal video was released by Jeremy Corbell in April 2025, and Wiggins testified before Congress in September 2025.

Evidence, in date order (2)

  1. Apr 2025USS Jackson SAFIRE thermal sensorsensor data
    Thermal video of the objects, with CIC audio: "all four... all synchronous, heading out into the abyss" Weaponized (Jeremy Corbell), April 2025
  2. Apr 2025Marik von Rennenkampffdocument
    Flight-track check found no aircraft to explain the objects KLAS 8 News Now, 17 Apr 2025

How plausible · High

A named Navy radar senior chief saw it firsthand and the ship's thermal video is out; flight records show no explaining aircraft.

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    Access On the ship.
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    Cost of speaking Named, on camera.
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    No gain sought Nothing sold.
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    Character record Senior chief.
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    Physical traces or official reaction Thermal video.
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    Independent convergence Thermal sensor.

Plausibility weighs how well an account fits where secrecy hides the documents by design, so missing records never count against it. Strength measures what is documented. Assessed 2026-10-23.

Claims

A light on the horizon "looked as if it were surfacing out of the water"; the SAFIRE thermal sensor showed one, then two tic-tac shapes with no exhaust, then four in all, which left to the northeast at once, "two steps behind instantaneous". (firsthand; Senior Chief Operations Specialist Alexandro Wiggins)firsthandSourced, unconfirmedAlexandro Wiggins
Flight-tracking records show no aircraft or helicopters that could explain the four objects. (analysis; Marik von Rennenkampff, former DoD and State Department analyst)analysisSourced, unconfirmedMarik von Rennenkampff
One object was a distant airliner. (analysis; a Metabunk poster; proposed, not demonstrated)analysisSourced, unconfirmed

Where

W-291 warning area, off Southern California
32.5°N 118.5°W · region only

In The picture

They use the waterThe Tic Tac hovered over churning water before it shot away. A Navy chief told Congress he saw glowing objects rise out of the ocean near the USS Jackson, and the ship's thermal sensor then caught four tic-tac shapes that left together 'two steps behind instantaneous'. Four years earlier the USS Omaha tracked a spher…
They use the waterSeventy per cent of the planet is water we barely watch. It is the natural place for something that has been here a long time, and the same stretch of sea off Southern California keeps producing it: the Nimitz in 2004, the Omaha in 2019, the Jackson in 2023.

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