YouTube video · UAP Gerb · 9 August 2024
The 1974 Coyame, Mexico UFO Crash
Gerb's case file on Coyame, Chihuahua, in August 1974. The core source is the anonymous 'Deneb report' of 1992, which describes a radar track from the Gulf of Mexico, a light plane down at the same spot, and a US team from Fort Bliss that crossed the border, found the Mexican recovery convoy dead and flew the disc out. Stringfield had heard of the case by the late 1970s and says the CIA warned him off Mexico in 1978. Later witnesses, a pilot's death in a 1974 plane crash and the lack of any released record frame the story.
On the record
- A pilot, Enrique Rivera Gutiérrez, died on 30 August 1974 of plane-crash injuries (El Fronterizo).
- CIA FOIA F-2007-00637 found no records.
Open questions
- Who 'JS' and the Deneb team were.
- Whether El Heraldo de Chihuahua of 27 October 1974 can be found.
Leads to follow
- Elaine Douglas's 1993 copy of the report; her web pages are missing from the web archive.
- Jesús Alberto's video.
Timeline
On the recordWitness testimonyAlleged / one person's word
25 Aug 1974
Radar track into ChihuahuaTwo military radars follow it about 500 mi.The Deneb report on Coyame (23 March 1992)
26-27 Aug 1974
Fort Bliss team crosses at CandelariaDisc slung out; site destroyed.The Deneb report on Coyame (23 March 1992)
The claims, checked
On the record (2)
Pilot Enrique Rivera Gutiérrez died on 30 August 1974 of injuries from a plane crash, which Noe Torres and Ruben Uriarte take to be the light plane, a Cessna 180 on a covert low run.The smuggling reading explains the plane, not the disc.firsthandEl Fronterizo (1974), via Noe Torres and Ruben UriarteCoyame, Chihuahua, 1974: the Deneb report crash
A CIA FOIA request (F-2007-00637) on an 'alleged mid-air collision near Coyame' in 1974 found no records.A missing record does not lower plausibility.firsthandCIA FOIA replyCoyame, Chihuahua, 1974: the Deneb report crashCentral Intelligence Agency
Witness testimony (5)
'The US military team had covertly crossed into Mexico to retrieve the object'; the report 'is authoritatively written using correct military terminology' and draws the line between hard evidence and speculation.analysisLeonard Stringfield (1994)Coyame, Chihuahua, 1974: the Deneb report crashThe Deneb report on Coyame (23 March 1992)
The CIA warned him 'circuitously' in 1978 not to discuss Mexico.firsthandLeonard StringfieldCoyame, Chihuahua, 1974: the Deneb report crashCentral Intelligence Agency
Johnnie Chambers and her son in Presidio, Texas, saw a fireball and a big explosion over Mexico, then a group of military helicopters, one of them twin-rotor, fly back into the US within a day.firsthandJohnnie Chambers (came forward 2012)Coyame, Chihuahua, 1974: the Deneb report crash
Torres found a piece of aircraft debris near the site.firsthandNoe TorresCoyame, Chihuahua, 1974: the Deneb report crash
Jesús Alberto, a Mexican official from the Maussan hearings, tweeted on 16 March 2024 that he had a video of the event, then deleted the tweet without sharing it.firsthandJesús AlbertoCoyame, Chihuahua, 1974: the Deneb report crash
Alleged / one person's word (9)
At 22:07 on 25 August 1974 US air-defence radar tracked an unknown coming in from the Gulf of Mexico at 2,200 kt and 75,000 ft; it slowed to about 1,700 kt, turned 35 degrees and stepped down in level stages to near Coyame, where it vanished.Anonymous document of unknown provenance.anonymousDeneb reportanonymous author 'JS' → Deneb report (1992) → told itCoyame, Chihuahua, 1974: the Deneb report crashThe Deneb report on Coyame (23 March 1992)
A civilian light plane flying from El Paso to Mexico City went down at the same place and time; next day Mexican searchers found its wreck and, a few miles away, a circular craft, and radio silence followed.anonymousDeneb reportanonymous author 'JS' → Deneb report (1992) → told itCoyame, Chihuahua, 1974: the Deneb report crashThe Deneb report on Coyame (23 March 1992)
A US recovery team staged at Fort Bliss with three unmarked sand-coloured UH-1s and a larger helicopter; Mexico refused help, the team crossed at Candelaria, found the Mexican convoy dead, slung the disc away and destroyed the vehicles, bodies and plane wreck with explosives.anonymousDeneb reportanonymous author 'JS' → Deneb report (1992) → told itCoyame, Chihuahua, 1974: the Deneb report crashThe Deneb report on Coyame (23 March 1992)
The disc was 16 ft 5 in across and under 5 ft thick, polished-steel silver with no doors, windows, lights or markings, a 12-in hole and a 2-ft dent, and weighed about 1,500 lb; it went by back roads toward Atlanta.anonymousDeneb reportanonymous author 'JS' → Deneb report (1992) → told itCoyame, Chihuahua, 1974: the Deneb report crashThe Deneb report on Coyame (23 March 1992)
The report says its facts come from two eyewitness accounts, illegally copied documentation and a partially destroyed document copied in 1978 by a person now dead.anonymousDeneb reportanonymous author 'JS' → Deneb report (1992) → told itThe Deneb report on Coyame (23 March 1992)
A 2012 Wikipedia edit named a 15-man retired-military US team and four Mexican soldiers with 'signs of death by asphyxiation'; no source was ever given and the page was deleted in 2014.Gerb could not match the names to records; they stay out of person records.anonymousWikipedia user 'Mercy11'unnamed source → Wikipedia edit (2012) → told itCoyame, Chihuahua, 1974: the Deneb report crash
El Heraldo de Chihuahua reported on 27 October 1974 that Mexican soldiers were killed in a 'military transport' crash.The article has not been located.secondhandAlfonso SalazarEl Heraldo de Chihuahua (27 Oct 1974) → Alfonso Salazar → told itCoyame, Chihuahua, 1974: the Deneb report crash
The convoy's route toward Atlanta points to Lockheed's Marietta plant (AFP 6) or the Georgia Nuclear Aircraft Laboratory, and to the CIA's Office of Global Access moving craft into private hands.Gerb's reasoning, with Christopher Sharp's reporting as context.speculationCoyame, Chihuahua, 1974: the Deneb report crashLockheed Martin Skunk WorksChristopher Sharp
The Mexican soldiers may have died from a chemical or microbiological agent, as Sandia technicians reportedly did in the IPU report; Gerb keeps open that the US team killed them.speculationCoyame, Chihuahua, 1974: the Deneb report crashThe 'Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit' report (22 July 1947)