News show episode · Reality Check · October 2026
Ross Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
Ross Coulthart's Reality Check Q&A with Meagan Medick, recorded in the Australian spring of 2026. He works through the hybridization claims (Gaetz's Army briefer, Burchett on Newsmax, Elizondo's 'MILAB' passage to Jillian Michaels) and says his own legacy-program sources tell him the same, though he has not reported it because it is all secondhand. He also covers Tim Taylor ('Tyler D'), Charles Hall's Tall Whites, and why every Pentagon denial is issued in AARO's name.
Overview
- Named, secondhand: Gaetz's uniformed Army briefer on hybrid breeding programs; Elizondo's MILAB agreement since the 1950s, heard at the Pentagon.
- Named, on the record: Burchett on Newsmax ('set the earth on fire', 'dying or disappearing').
- Anonymous, via Coulthart: deep underground bases with US-NHI hybridization; legacy-program people describe ongoing collaboration; AARO staff frustrated at having no access to the legacy program.
- Through Pasulka and Bledsoe: Tim Taylor's compartmented program, shielded room, contact routine, scattered metal at crash sites, NRO launch watching, Zanesville 'living metal', the Camp David coaster.
- Charles Hall: the Tall Whites at Indian Springs, service verified by DD-214, no corroboration.
- His analysis: denials are AARO-only; secrecy may be 'part of the agreements with these beings'.
Leads to follow
- Tim Taylor ('Tyler D'): a person record later if he speaks for himself; text only for now.
- The Zanesville, Ohio 'living metal' Taylor and Bledsoe investigated.
- Taylor's Camp David coaster and the claimed Obama briefing.
- Coulthart naming Burlison among those given the hybrid allegations (slip or lead).
- The source of Coulthart's '2021' date for the AARO denial.
Timeline
On the recordWitness testimonyAlleged / one person's word
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About 1965
Tall Whites at Indian SpringsCharles Hall, USAF weather observer; one witness
1950s on
The MILAB agreementElizondo, heard at the Pentagon: access to human specimens
March 2026
Gaetz's hybrid briefingA uniformed Army member, per Gaetz on Benny Johnson
Early April 2026
Burchett on Newsmax'would have set the earth on fire'
May 2026
Elizondo to Jillian MichaelsMILABs; hybrids raised twice; no firsthand knowledge
The claims, checked
Witness testimony (8)
Asked on Newsmax about Gaetz's claim, Burchett said he could not comment much on it because he is still a member of Congress.Newsmax, early April 2026 ('around about April this year'), as Coulthart recounts it.firsthandTim BurchettRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
Burchett: 'I've been briefed by just about every alphabet agency there is. If they would release the things that I've seen ... you'd be up at night'; a briefing two weeks earlier 'would have set the earth on fire', the country 'would have come unglued', and the information keeps getting covered up 'while the people that know are dying or disappearing'.Newsmax, early April 2026, as quoted by Coulthart; the Blaze wrote it up on 2 April 2026.firsthandTim BurchettRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
Elizondo told Jillian Michaels that Burchett is 'absolutely correct' about access to very sensitive information, and that some of the people who briefed Burchett and his colleagues were colleagues of his.Coulthart reading from the May 2026 Keeping It Real interview; his reading is that Elizondo was 'backing up' Burchett.firsthandLuis ElizondoTim BurchettRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
Coulthart checked Taylor out: a NASA biomedical engineer whose company bio credits him with 40+ shuttle and 80 DoD missions and 40+ patents; Vivex Biologics is a real company; he wrote Launch Fever.analysisRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
Pasulka's 'Tyler D' is Tim Taylor: the Vatican Observatory's 2017 annual report lists both Diana Walsh Pasulka and 'Timothy Taylor (NASA)' among its visitors.The identification was pieced together publicly from the visitor list; Coulthart repeats it.analysisRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
Charles Hall says that as a USAF weather observer at Indian Springs, Nevada, around 1965, he met tall humanoid beings who lived on the base with their craft and liaised with Air Force officers, and who befriended him after he helped one of their children.Coulthart summarising Hall's books and Jesse Michels' American Alchemy interview.firsthandCharles HallCharles Hall (books; American Alchemy interview) → Ross Coulthart (Reality Check, Oct 2026) → told itRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
Pentagon statements on UAP by spokeswoman Susan Gough are always made on behalf of AARO; the denial of any knowledge of extraterrestrial engagement was a denial for AARO, not for the whole Defense Department and intelligence community, perhaps 'word sophistry' because AARO is kept in the dark.Commentary. He dates the denial to 'I think in 2021'; AARO was set up in 2022, so he may mean the 2024 historical report or an earlier office.analysisAARORoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
There is no independent corroboration of Hall's contact claims, but his DD-214 confirms the service he claims.analysisRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
Alleged / one person's word (16)
Matt Gaetz said someone 'in a military uniform, worked for the United States Army' briefed him on 'the locations of hybrid breeding programs where captured aliens were breeding with humans', using people 'abducted from war zones and from even the caravans of migrants'.Coulthart retelling Gaetz's March 2026 appearance on Benny Johnson's show. Press accounts add 6-12 sites. UAP Gerb (12 May 2026 live) says Gaetz later described the briefer as an E-4 at his Tallahassee office, possibly the 'JP' of the Redacted podcast; that is Gerb's commentary.secondhandMatt Gaetzunnamed uniformed US Army member → Matt Gaetz (Benny Johnson show, Mar 2026) → Ross Coulthart (Reality Check, Oct 2026) → told itUFO File Drop 1, Manhattan Project 2.0, Greer NPC, Highlighting Gatekeepers & QnA - UAP Gerb LiveRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
What Gaetz describes is known as 'MILABs': a longstanding agreement since the 1950s with 'our friends from out of town' to work together, in exchange for which 'they would have access to certain human specimens biologically in order to test'.Elizondo: 'I heard about that while I was at the Pentagon. I was not privy to the specifics', 'if it is true'. Read out by Coulthart from the Michaels interview.secondhandunnamed Pentagon colleagues and former military and intelligence officers → Luis Elizondo (Keeping It Real with Jillian Michaels, May 2026) → Ross Coulthart (Reality Check, Oct 2026) → told itLuis ElizondoRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
Elizondo came back to hybrids unprompted: military and intelligence officials have told him of it and he has 'no reason to question their credibility', but he has no firsthand knowledge of hybridization or forced hybridization.Quoted by Coulthart from the same interview.secondhandunnamed Pentagon colleagues and former military and intelligence officers → Luis Elizondo (Keeping It Real with Jillian Michaels, May 2026) → Ross Coulthart (Reality Check, Oct 2026) → told itLuis ElizondoRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
He has had allegations put to him of deep underground military bases in America where the United States and non-human beings collaborate on hybridization.He says he thought it was crazy until Elizondo's interview.anonymousunnamed sources → Ross Coulthart (Reality Check, Oct 2026) → told itRoss CoulthartRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
He names Rep. Eric Burlison, with Elizondo and Gaetz, among those to whom defence and intelligence people have put the hybridization allegations.Possibly a slip, possibly a lead: in the Michaels interview Elizondo named Burchett, Luna and Burlison as having had access to the information.analysisEric BurlisonRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
'I have been told that there are hybridization programs going on.' He has not reported it because 'I have no direct firsthand evidence to substantiate it. It's all secondhand.'anonymousunnamed sources → Ross Coulthart (Reality Check, Oct 2026) → told itRoss CoulthartRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
Taylor told Pasulka he worked in a compartmented program on the phenomenon, with duties whose full purpose was not apparent even to his supervisor; on Shawn Ryan she called it an unacknowledged special access program.secondhandTim Taylor (via Diana Walsh Pasulka)Tim Taylor ('Tyler D') → Diana Walsh Pasulka (American Cosmic; Shawn Ryan interview) → Ross Coulthart (Reality Check, Oct 2026) → told itRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
After the Challenger disaster Taylor worked behind a heavily shielded room at a space facility, and believes something inside emitted signals or energy that altered his cognition and preceded his biomedical insights.From American Cosmic, as Coulthart recalls it.secondhandTim Taylor (via Diana Walsh Pasulka)Tim Taylor ('Tyler D') → Diana Walsh Pasulka (American Cosmic; Shawn Ryan interview) → Ross Coulthart (Reality Check, Oct 2026) → told itRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
Taylor says he receives information from a non-human intelligence ('I know I've established connection when the thoughts that show up in my mind don't seem like my own') and follows a contact routine, including an 8+1 sleep pattern.secondhandTim Taylor (via Diana Walsh Pasulka)Tim Taylor ('Tyler D') → Diana Walsh Pasulka (American Cosmic; Shawn Ryan interview) → Ross Coulthart (Reality Check, Oct 2026) → told itRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
Taylor took Pasulka and Garry Nolan to an alleged UFO debris site in New Mexico and said there that it was routine to scatter ordinary lumps of metal over crash sites so that searchers would find nothing anomalous.Nolan has since said the material recovered was not anomalous, which fits what Taylor said on site. Coulthart: 'a lot of what Diana Walsh Pasulka said ... is totally hearsay.'secondhandTim Taylor (via Diana Walsh Pasulka)Tim Taylor ('Tyler D') → Diana Walsh Pasulka (American Cosmic; Shawn Ryan interview) → Ross Coulthart (Reality Check, Oct 2026) → told itGarry NolanRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
Chris Bledsoe identifies Taylor as NRO-connected, monitoring spacecraft launches for anomalous objects approaching them.secondhandChris BledsoeTim Taylor → Chris Bledsoe → Ross Coulthart (Reality Check, Oct 2026) → told itNational Reconnaissance Office (NRO)Ross Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
Taylor placed unusual metal pieces in Bledsoe's hands, which gave a distinctive energetic response, and the two travelled to investigate 'living metal' from an alleged UAP event at Zanesville, Ohio.secondhandChris BledsoeTim Taylor → Chris Bledsoe → Ross Coulthart (Reality Check, Oct 2026) → told itRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
Bledsoe believes Taylor was involved in a briefing of President Obama: Taylor brought him back a Camp David coaster.speculationChris BledsoeTim Taylor → Chris Bledsoe → Ross Coulthart (Reality Check, Oct 2026) → told itRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
People in AARO are frustrated that they are not given the access they think they should have to the legacy program and to what its people know about contact with non-human beings.anonymousunnamed sources → Ross Coulthart (Reality Check, Oct 2026) → told itAAROThe Legacy ProgramRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
If the hybrid claims are true, they could explain the secrecy around abduction allegations; the only reason he can think of for not telling the public is that it is 'part of the agreements with these beings that we're not allowed to be told'.His own reading; 'I've got no idea.'speculationRoss CoulthartRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)
People who say they are in the legacy program, and are 'far too terrified to speak publicly', tell him of ongoing relationships between the American military and non-human beings, collaborating on things like hybridization experiments.anonymousunnamed people who say they are in the legacy program → Ross Coulthart (Reality Check, Oct 2026) → told itRoss CoulthartThe Legacy ProgramRoss Coulthart: 'What the f— is going on?' Hybrids, Tim Taylor and the Tall Whites (Q&A)