2026 · Washington, DC
Elizondo back in government, under a crash-retrieval oath
Part ofThe squeeze

Podcast UFO #789: Lue Elizondo, "I'm Back in Washington" · Podcast UFO (Martin Willis, own channel)
When2026
WhereWashington, DC
Backing2 independent
Witnesses1 named
Evidenceofficial records
In an interview with Martin Willis (Podcast UFO), Elizondo said he has moved back to the DC area to work for the government again and is bound by a lifelong agreement not to discuss crash retrievals. He is the first insider to suggest the Apollo 12 and 17 PURSUE frames are a test of public reaction. No agency has announced his role; the 'UAP czar' reports are rumour.
Evidence, in date order (2)
- 31 Jul 2026ODNI preliminary guidance on NDAsofficialofficial memo on non-disclosure agreements, consistent with his account of being barred from discussing retrievals ODNI preliminary guidance on NDAs (31 July 2026) and Burlison's statements
- Ryan Graveswitnessfirsthand testimony of an object splitting a two-jet formation, consistent with close cockpit encounters
How plausible · High
Elizondo speaks firsthand about returning to government under a lifelong retrieval NDA; an ODNI NDA memo and Graves's testimony fit, but no agency confirms his role.
- ●●Access Former AATIP official, now cleared again by his account.
- ●●Fits secrecy practice Lifelong NDA held in Colorado Springs; interagency coordination.
- ●○Cost of speaking Speaks under his name.
- ●○No gain sought Podcast interview.
- ●○Restraint Won't name the agency or role.
- ●○Character record Career counterintelligence officer; his AATIP role was disputed.
Plausibility weighs how well an account fits where secrecy hides the documents by design, so missing records never count against it. Strength measures what is documented. Assessed 2026-10-23.
Claims
He works for the US government again, holds his clearance and supports government efforts; he won't name the agency or role.firsthandSourced, unconfirmedLuis Elizondo
A lifelong agreement with no end date bars him from discussing crash retrievals; the signed copy is held in Colorado Springs.firsthandSourced, unconfirmedLuis Elizondo
'Some technologies and capabilities we have that we're willing to lose a war for.'secondhandSourced, unconfirmedLuis Elizondo
Release is held up by coordination: the CIA, FBI, DOE and White House must all agree.firsthandSourced, unconfirmedLuis Elizondo
Other agencies are watching the public reaction to the Apollo 12 and 17 release before releasing more.Apollo 12 lights released by war.gov (VM001-VM005)Apollo 17 three dots (war.gov VM006)firsthandSourced, unconfirmedLuis Elizondo
A 23-minute UAP video exists and hasn't been released; other encounters came within 15 ft of a cockpit.firsthandSourced, unconfirmedLuis Elizondo
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People and organizations
The Legacy Program orgLuis Elizondo personRyan Graves personThe Department of War's PURSUE disclosure waiver (14 Sept 2026) documentODNI preliminary guidance on NDAs (31 July 2026) and Burlison's statements document