Organization
Special Access Program Oversight Committee (SAPOC) and Senior Review Group
- On the record: created by Perry's 5 Jan 1994 memo, chaired by the DepSecDef; Deutch, Perry, Owens and Kaminski among its early members.
- The claims: the Wilson-Davis notes (anonymous document) put the 1997 block here; Gerb's sources say a group of about two dozen took control in 1994.
The Pentagon committee, chaired by the Deputy Secretary of Defense, that has approved and overseen all DoD special access programs since William Perry restructured SAP oversight in January 1994; a Senior Review Group sits beneath it. Its first leaders, Deutch, Perry and Owens, had ties to SAIC. The leaked Wilson-Davis notes describe Adm. Wilson being blocked by people in this structure in 1997. UAP Gerb treats 1994 as the year legacy control shifted to a small committee of about two dozen people, and the SAPOC as the gate they use.
Claims (10)
Set up by Deputy Secretary of Defense William Perry's memo of 5 Jan 1994 restructuring SAP oversight; chaired by the DepSecDef, with a Senior Review Group below it. The chain runs component SAPCOs, OSD SAPCO, DoD SAPCO, SAPOC, SRG; the DoD SAPCO is Congress's access point but waived SAPs are exempt.Special Access Required - the Secrecy of UFO Crash Retrieval Programs [VOL.2]firsthandOn the recordDoD memo (5 Jan 1994); DoDD 5205.07 and DoDI 5205.11 (cited by UAP Gerb)
John Deutch (USD(A&T) 1993-94, then DepSecDef chairing SAPOC) and William Perry had SAIC ties; Adm. William Owens sat on it before becoming SAIC's CEO; Paul Kaminski (USD(A&T) 1994-97) was a member.firsthandOn the recordpublic bios (cited by UAP Gerb)
The Joint Security Commission's 1994 report 'Redefining Security' put unacknowledged SAP security costs at 3-10 times those of acknowledged SAPs, up to 40% of operating costs.Special Access Required - the Secrecy of UFO Crash Retrieval Programs [VOL.2]firsthandSourced, unconfirmedJoint Security Commission (1994), cited by UAP Gerb; figures to verify
In the notes, Wilson was told by Gen. Michael Ward to search USD(A&T) special records, met Kaminski and an SRG 'watch committee', and was told security cost 2-3 times the program budget (once 6-7 times).anonymousSourced, unconfirmedcase/wilson
Linton Wells II (SRG; OSD) was briefed into MITRE's legacy programs in the mid to late 2000s.anonymousLeadUAP Gerb (Sam)
In 1994, out of fear of Clinton's appetite for disclosure, control moved from the NSC to a quasi industry-government group of 'just over two dozen' that sets policy, while the SAPOC/SRG provides the paper structure; the NRO forward-funding scandal of 1992-95 may have triggered the restructuring.anonymousLeadUAP Gerb (Sam)
A mid-1990s 'burn bag and shred party' at one agency followed fear that Clinton would disclose.Special Access Required - the Secrecy of UFO Crash Retrieval Programs [VOL.2]secondhandSourced, unconfirmedDavid Grusch
The unnamed contractor in the Wilson-Davis notes is SAIC, given the SAIC ties of Deutch, Perry and Owens; the SAPOC is not MJ-12 ('there is no MJ-27').speculationLeadUAP Gerb (Sam)
4 of the 12 SAPOC and Senior Review Group members had SAIC ties (Owens among them) and others MITRE ties (Kaminski, Linton Wells).Discussing Lockheed Martin Project + "Sub Rosa: Organized Secrecy" Ft. Guests Rob Jones & KermitSAICThe MITRE CorporationanalysisSourced, unconfirmedpublic bios (Rob Jones)
In 1994 control left the executive branch for a mixed government-industry group of just over two dozen, gated by SAPOC and its Senior Review Group, with FFRDCs such as MITRE and Lincoln Lab inside.UFO File Drop 1, Manhattan Project 2.0, Greer NPC, Highlighting Gatekeepers & QnA - UAP Gerb LiveCurrent Work, Return of the PowerPoint & QnA - UAP Gerb LiveDeputy Secretary of Defense memo creating the SAPOC (5 January 1994)The 'committee of 27'speculationLeadUAP Gerb (Sam)
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The 'committee of 27' orgThe Legacy Program orgNational Programs Special Management Staff (NPMS) orgNational Reconnaissance Office (NRO) orgSAIC orgH. Marshall Ward personJohn Deutch personPaul Kaminski personUAP Gerb (Sam) personWilliam Perry personDoD Inspector General UAP evaluation files (FOIA, 2025) documentDeputy Secretary of Defense memo creating the SAPOC (5 January 1994) document
Sources
- UAP Gerb: the National Reconnaissance Office
- UAP Gerb: 80 Years of UFO crash retrieval and reverse engineering: a timeline
- UAP Gerb: Special Access Required, Vol. 2
- UAP Gerb: SAIC
- UAP Gerb, 'Discussing Lockheed Martin Project + "Sub Rosa: Organized Secrecy" Ft. Guests Rob Jones & Kermit' (YouTube, 6 October 2025)
- UAP Gerb, 'UFO File Drop 1, Manhattan Project 2.0, Greer NPC, Highlighting Gatekeepers & QnA - UAP Gerb Live' (YouTube, 12 May 2026)
- UAP Gerb, 'Current Work, Return of the PowerPoint & QnA - UAP Gerb Live' (YouTube, 21 July 2026)
Mentioned on (9)
- UAP Gerb: 80 Years of UFO Crash Retrieval and Reverse Engineering: A Timeline
- UAP Gerb: Discussing Lockheed Martin Project + "Sub Rosa: Organized Secrecy" Ft. Guests Rob Jones & Kermit
- UAP Gerb: UFO File Drop 1, Manhattan Project 2.0, Greer NPC, Highlighting Gatekeepers & QnA - UAP Gerb Live
- UAP Gerb: Current Work, Return of the PowerPoint & QnA - UAP Gerb Live
- UAP Gerb: Lockheed Martin - UFO Reverse Engineering, Material Exploitation, & Legacy Programs
- UAP Gerb: The MITRE Corporation - UFO Reverse Engineering, USO Tracking, & Legacy Programs
- UAP Gerb: National Reconnaissance Office - UFO Crash Retrievals, Surveillance, and Legacy Program Gatekeepers
- UAP Gerb: UFO Legacy Programs - Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC)
- UAP Gerb: Special Access Required - the Secrecy of UFO Crash Retrieval Programs [VOL.2]