Podcast · hosted by Jesse Michels
American Alchemy
Jesse Michels' long-form show about UAP, consciousness and frontier science. His episodes weave long threads of connections across decades and people; here each episode's claims are checked and its events laid on one timeline, so recurring figures show up as the long threads.
Episodes (6)
- 14 Oct 2026Deep Prasad returns: AI, quantum, Roswell tech and his 2019 encounter
- 7 Oct 2026Secretary of Energy John Herrington on UFOs, plus Brent Friedman's reply
- 29 Sept 2026Aztec 1948 with Scott and Suzanne Ramsey
- 7 Sept 2026Mario Woods and Michael Johnson reunite after 49 years
- 29 Aug 2026Matthew Brown on Immaculate Constellation, agreements and hybrid programs
- 13 Apr 202648 hours with Bob Lazar and Luigi Vendittelli
Timeline across the episodes
On the recordWitness testimonyAlleged / one person's word
People across the timeline · click a name or a dot
Click a person to follow their thread.
1941–45
Bush's wartime science networkOSRD/NDRC; Tate runs subsurface warfarefrom the Ramsey & Ramsay episode
1942
Battle of Los AngelesReached Gen. Marshall's desk; never explainedfrom the Herrington & Friedman episode
1945-50s
Paperclip splits in two'Nazis in name only' at Redstone, 'true believers' at Los Alamosfrom the Brown episodeLos Alamos National Laboratory
Jul 1947
Roswell recoveryArmy 'flying disc' release; the recovery team per later claimsfrom the Prasad episode
1948
Von Neumann's self-replicating machinesHixon lectures; about machines, not spaceshipsfrom the Prasad episode
7 Jan 1948
Mantell killed chasing a UFONewton later says 'disintegrated'from the Ramsey & Ramsay episode
Mar-Apr 1948
Recovery and clean-upDragon Wagon, concrete pad, records falsifiedfrom the Ramsey & Ramsay episode
Feb 1949
Green fireballs conferenceLos Alamos; Teller and LaPaz try to explainfrom the Herrington & Friedman episode
1950s
Palomar transientsLinked to nuclear test days (Bruehl 2025)from the Herrington & Friedman episode
1950s
Townsend Brown's capacitor thrustIn air explained by ion wind; vacuum disputedfrom the Lazar & Vendittelli episode
8 Mar 1950
Newton's 'Scientist X' lectureDenver; OSI questions Koehlerfrom the Ramsey & Ramsay episode
15 Sept 1950
Sarbacher to Wilbert SmithScully's book 'substantially correct'from the Ramsey & Ramsay episode
1953
Ellsworth radar-visual chaseF-84 chases a light; Ruppelt: the best in Blue Bookfrom the Woods & Johnson episode
1958–60
Integrated circuit and laserKilby, Noyce, Maiman; Corso says 'accelerated'from the Prasad episode
1959–62
Nitinol at the Naval Ordnance LabShape-memory alloy; Roswell 'memory metal' link is inferencefrom the Lazar & Vendittelli episode
1961
Nuclear plane cancelledReactor engines still on show in Idahofrom the Herrington & Friedman episode
1961
Saucers over a Port Arthur churchWoods, aged six, with his motherfrom the Woods & Johnson episode
1962
Bluegill Triple Prime debrisMalmgren says he held what fellfrom the Herrington & Friedman episode
1974
Reagan's sighting near BakersfieldPilot Bill Paynter's accountfrom the Herrington & Friedman episode
Nov 1977
Object over November-5Two guards, alarm, beings, five hours lostfrom the Woods & Johnson episode
16 Nov 1977
The fake L-9 reportLima-9, ~8 mi away; Doty said to have forged itfrom the Woods & Johnson episode
Summer 1981
The veranda conversation'Aliens are real... I've seen them'from the Herrington & Friedman episode
Jan–Sep 1981
Herrington runs Presidential PersonnelRecord; he says he was 'a peon'from the Herrington & Friedman episode
Jun 1982
Jet car on the Los Alamos front pageSame day Lazar meets Teller at his lecturefrom the Lazar & Vendittelli episode
1985–89
Herrington Secretary of EnergyFinds the F-117 at Tonopah in his budgetfrom the Herrington & Friedman episode
1986–87
Tours the Greenbrier bunkerHis own account; secret until 1992from the Herrington & Friedman episode
1988
Résumé to TellerTeller phones back with a Las Vegas contact: EG&Gfrom the Lazar & Vendittelli episode
1988–89
Work at S-4Galileo, Sidekick, Looking Glass; nine hangarsfrom the Lazar & Vendittelli episodeArea 51 and S-4
before 1988
Predecessor killedReactor cut open under load explodes (via Barry)from the Lazar & Vendittelli episode
22 Mar 1989
Lear films a test flight8 mi east of Groom Lake; disc in his Celestronfrom the Lazar & Vendittelli episode
6 Apr 1989
Caught on the roadLast Wednesday trip; Lazar not let backfrom the Lazar & Vendittelli episode
23 May 1989
USGS receives Papoose Lake mapA receipt stamp on a 1968-photo map, not an editfrom the Lazar & Vendittelli episode
Nov 1989
Lazar by nameKnapp: six witnesses threatened, never came forwardfrom the Lazar & Vendittelli episode
c. 1995
Orange disc at the Black MailboxAnonymous students' tape, via Logan Paulfrom the Lazar & Vendittelli episode
1999–2000
United Nuclear foundedLater raided by CPSC (2000s) and FBI (2017)from the Lazar & Vendittelli episode
2005–08
DOE 'Roswell hazing' briefingsMowatt-Larssen: fake SAPs, propsfrom the Herrington & Friedman episode
2016 on
Buhler's vacuum thrust testsAbout 2,000 runs; company claims, not replicatedfrom the Lazar & Vendittelli episode
Before about 2018
Triangle over Russian shipsOff Kamchatka; the brief says they had foreknowledgefrom the Brown episodeImmaculate Constellation
2022
Google Earth shows tracks at S-4Before the site was blurred (Vendittelli)from the Lazar & Vendittelli episode
2023–25
Grusch writes to HerringtonHerrington confirms letter and callfrom the Herrington & Friedman episode
13 Nov 2024
IC report in the recordHis field report, seven categories of evidencefrom the Brown episodeImmaculate Constellation
2025
Puthoff on Rogan: 10–40 craftBush and Hadley weighed disclosurefrom the Herrington & Friedman episode
2025
Nov 2025
Herrington to Schreckinger'Total BS'; reportedly no cars drivenfrom the Herrington & Friedman episode
Mar 2026
Friedman tells it in fullSound, Light & Frequency podcastfrom the Herrington & Friedman episode
3 Apr 2026
S4: The Bob Lazar StoryFilm out; Lazar and Vendittelli on Rogan #2479from the Lazar & Vendittelli episode
Apr 2026
This episodeLazar meets Buhler; home lab '100% confident'from the Lazar & Vendittelli episode
Oct 2026
Herrington on American AlchemyDenies; confirms cars; offers to testifyfrom the Herrington & Friedman episode
18 Nov 2026
Voyager 1 one light-day outNASA date; 49 years after the nightfrom the Woods & Johnson episode
Truman-Eisenhower era
The two-term agreementNo-go zones in the US; access to humans of their choosingfrom the Brown episode
unknown
Sport model from an underwater digNavy find, per Barry; new in this episodefrom the Lazar & Vendittelli episode