YouTube video · UAP Gerb · 23 September 2024
10K Live! UAPDA, Crash Retrieval Research, Q&A and More
Gerb's 10,000-subscriber stream. Its core is his own research: who lobbied on the defence bill that carried the UAP Disclosure Act (OpenSecrets shows Battelle, BAE, Leidos, Lockheed, Northrop, the University of California and Princeton on S.4443), and the underwater retrieval angle from Christopher Sharp's article, whose original version named NURO, CIA directorates and Woods Hole submersibles before it was edited. Around it come Woods Hole's federal awards, the chat witness 'dead fish' on the January 2023 objects, a McCandlish update and Gerb's first public line on the 2004 'blue on blue'.
On the record
- OpenSecrets lobbying on S.4443 Title X.
- Woods Hole's federal awards on USAspending.
- The web-archive copy of Sharp's 20 September 2024 article.
Open questions
- Whether the lobbying touched the UAPDA text itself.
- What NURO is and who runs it.
Leads to follow
- FOIA for NURO.
- Wood's underwater sites off Catalina and Florida.
- 'dead fish' MUFON report 12789 and its video.
Timeline
On the recordWitness testimonyAlleged / one person's word
2001
Grant Cameron asks Cheney on air'If I was briefed on that I probably couldn't talk about it.'
10 Jan 2023
'dead fish' sees a 'burning quartz crystal'MUFON 12789; tied by the witness to the February 2023 shoot-downs.
20 Sep 2024
Sharp's article names NURO and Woods HoleRevised by 22 September; the names dropped.Christopher Sharp
The claims, checked
On the record (3)
Battelle filed lobbying reports on Title X of S.4443, the FY2025 NDAA text that carried the UAP Disclosure Act: microelectronics and device cyber protection.firsthandOpenSecrets lobbying records (read by UAP Gerb)Battelle Memorial InstituteThe UAP Disclosure Act
BAE Systems, Leidos, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, the University of California and Princeton also lobbied on the bill.firsthandOpenSecrets lobbying records (read by UAP Gerb)Lockheed Martin Skunk WorksNorthrop GrummanPrinceton University and Princeton research institutes (MAE, PPPL, TRI)The UAP Disclosure Act
Woods Hole has had $3.3B in federal awards since 2001, including ONR Arctic unmanned vehicles, $794M of NUWC Newport UUV work over nine years, an NSWC Crane and SAIC expeditionary weapon-systems contract, and a sole-source contract justified by 'unique capabilities'.firsthandUSAspending records (read by UAP Gerb)Woods Hole Oceanographic InstitutionOffice of Naval Research (ONR)Naval Surface Warfare Center Crane (NSWC Crane)SAIC
Witness testimony (8)
Asked on a radio show in 2001 about UAP programs, Dick Cheney said in effect 'if I was briefed on that I probably couldn't talk about it'.Gerb is combing Cameron's files for more on Cheney.firsthandDick Cheney, to Grant Cameron on air (2001)
On 10 January 2023 an object passed horizon to horizon about 100 ft overhead at about 150 mph, silent, 'a bright orange upside-down burning quartz crystal'; the witness ties it to the objects shot down in February 2023, 'not a balloon', and has a video and seven other witness statements.Another witness called it a giant translucent craft.firsthand'dead fish' (pseudonymous chat witness, MUFON 12789)An F-16 shoots down a UAP
In interviews from about 2014 to 2017 McCandlish said he slept with a pistol under his pillow.As Gerb reports from the interviews.firsthandMark McCandlish
Brad Sorensen named the 'tall Italian man with white hair' who took him into the 1988 Norton display; Gerb has the name in his notes.Gerb names him as Frank Carlucci on 29 September 2024.secondhandBrad Sorensen → UAP Gerb → told itBrad SorensenBill Scott's interview notes with Brad Sorensen (3 December 1990)
A former Marine and abductee says digital camouflage patterns can match, and reports harassment and hacking after trying to reach Herrera's insider; a triangular craft was involved.Uncorroborated; he has a book.firsthandJustin Bush (former Marine)Sumatra, 2009: Michael Herrera's octagonal craft
Tim Gallaudet has pointed to a large structure off Catalina that appears to have been removed from Google Maps; UAPx has studied Catalina.As Gerb reports. Chat notes: Catalina is also a Coast Guard area, and DDT waste was dumped there in the 1940s.firsthandCatalina Island reports, 1949-1955
Eric Walker told Henry Azadehdel in the 1980s that to get into the programs you had to 'know about ESP'.Gerb ties it to SAIC and SRI psionics.secondhandEric Walker → Henry Azadehdel → told itEric A. WalkerStargate is shut down
Eric Taber's relative at Area 51 heard of an egg-shaped craft found intact and unattended in the Nevada desert, which Gerb links to Grusch's 'donated craft' remark.Third-hand.secondhandEric Taber (on Ross Coulthart's show)unnamed EG&G engineer → Taber's relative → Eric Taber → told itEG&GArea 51 and S-4
Alleged / one person's word (9)
The lobbying on S.4443 was aimed at the UAP Disclosure Act.The lobbying is on record; its aim is Gerb's hypothesis.speculationThe UAP Disclosure Act
Christopher Sharp's original article of 20 September 2024 named those involved in underwater retrievals: the CIA Directorate of Science and Technology and Directorate of Operations (maritime branch), NURO, the Navy, NRO, Space Command, NGA and JSOC, with Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution submersibles; the version online by 22 September dropped the names.The edit itself is documented by the web archive.anonymousunnamed sources → Christopher Sharp → told itWoods Hole Oceanographic InstitutionNational Underwater Reconnaissance Office (NURO)Central Intelligence AgencyNational Reconnaissance Office (NRO)Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC)Christopher Sharp
NURO is 'a high-value FOIA target': it is to the ocean what the NRO is to fast walkers.A chat researcher's line that Gerb endorses.speculationNational Underwater Reconnaissance Office (NURO)National Reconnaissance Office (NRO)
Ryan Wood's Majic Eyes Only lists UK retrievals at Charlton (16 Jul 1963), Penkridge (Feb or Mar 1964), Walthamstow (13 Apr 1964), Cambridgeshire (Jan 1965), the Berwyn Mountains (1974) and possibly Cheslyn Hay, Staffordshire (Jul 1991).Wood's catalogue as read by Gerb.analysisRyan S. Wood
If a Lockheed recovery team killed JSOC members, Garry Nolan's proposed private retrieval team would be 'a death sentence'; corroboration may lie in the 1990-2010 reorganisations, such as the 1994 SAP consolidation.A chat point Gerb endorses.speculationThe 2004 'blue on blue': JSOC against a Lockheed recovery teamGarry NolanDeputy Secretary of Defense memo creating the SAPOC (5 January 1994)
The helicopter photo is still the main argument against Herrera; Gerb, like many, thinks the man pictured is someone else, and the camouflage only partly matches.The name Gerb and others put forward is kept out of the records.speculationSumatra, 2009: Michael Herrera's octagonal craft
Psionic people ('P3' or 'pink' assets) are used to interface with craft or pull them down.anonymousHerrera's insider → Michael Herrera → told itSumatra, 2009: Michael Herrera's octagonal craft
Hudson Valley-type triangles were early ARVs, judging by their manufactured-looking undersides.speculation
Grusch's statement of firsthand knowledge was edited out of his NewsNation interview with Ross Vargas.As Gerb reports.analysisDavid Grusch